Saturday, October 26, 2013
Report from Halpern (Heilprin) Rashi/Rabbi of Worms Group on DNA
Halpern and Branches - Results
So
far, we have some interesting results. (from 2 leaders of the group).
The G2c haplogroup seems to be most likely to link to the old rabbinic Heilperin family originally from Germany, c. 1500. One man in this group can trace his tree directly back that far, and at least two others with similar surnames match very close to him.
There is another E1b1b1c1a cluster that appears to have originally been from Kurenets, Belarus c. 1700, or even earlier. They may trace to the rabbinic family of this name, since they appear to have gone by "Alper", "Alperovich" and similar names since 1700. Surnames were very uncommon in that time, unless one was from a note family.
There is a small J1 cluster as well, with folks of Austrian, Romanian, and western Ukrainian descent. These folks appear to have had a common origin around 1700, but unlike the E1b1b1c1a case, there is no documentation to prove it.
My own cousin of the Halpern family is J2a4b*, and has no matches in the group. Our family traces to Rabbi Reuven Halpern of Glowno (c. 1760-1816), who was said to have descended from Jehiel Heilperin of Minsk (1660-1746). Some sources say that Jehiel descended from the Heilperins of Germany.
Some folks also appear to be from Q, and other haplogroups.
Clearly, all of these groups can't trace back to the same male along one paternal line, but they might be related to each other via women who passed their famous name onto their husbands and their descendants.
We can conclude that though there is no one clear Halpern clan, there appears to be at least 3 distinct clusters tracing back to about 1700 or even earlier in some cases.
Other folks may be "late adopters" of the surname.
The G2c haplogroup seems to be most likely to link to the old rabbinic Heilperin family originally from Germany, c. 1500. One man in this group can trace his tree directly back that far, and at least two others with similar surnames match very close to him.
There is another E1b1b1c1a cluster that appears to have originally been from Kurenets, Belarus c. 1700, or even earlier. They may trace to the rabbinic family of this name, since they appear to have gone by "Alper", "Alperovich" and similar names since 1700. Surnames were very uncommon in that time, unless one was from a note family.
There is a small J1 cluster as well, with folks of Austrian, Romanian, and western Ukrainian descent. These folks appear to have had a common origin around 1700, but unlike the E1b1b1c1a case, there is no documentation to prove it.
My own cousin of the Halpern family is J2a4b*, and has no matches in the group. Our family traces to Rabbi Reuven Halpern of Glowno (c. 1760-1816), who was said to have descended from Jehiel Heilperin of Minsk (1660-1746). Some sources say that Jehiel descended from the Heilperins of Germany.
Some folks also appear to be from Q, and other haplogroups.
Clearly, all of these groups can't trace back to the same male along one paternal line, but they might be related to each other via women who passed their famous name onto their husbands and their descendants.
We can conclude that though there is no one clear Halpern clan, there appears to be at least 3 distinct clusters tracing back to about 1700 or even earlier in some cases.
Other folks may be "late adopters" of the surname.
from Nadene: A Rabbi Yehiel Heilprin was born in Minsk, which was in Belarus, in 1660 and died in 1746, which was later said to be in Russia, but Catherine II caused Jews to live in the Pale of Settlement, which Belarus was in then along with Lithuania, Poland, Latvia, etc. We Goldfoots match up with Alpert, especially with Joseph Stephen Alpert whereby matching cM's with David, I, his sister, matched with 74 segments, Sandra matched with 54 segments and Joseph matched with 16 segments. I would say we might be 3rd to 4th cousins. Heilprin is another name for Alpert.
Labels: Alpert, DNA haplogroups, Heilprin, Rabbi of Worms group
